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Hello.
I'm new,just registered less than a minute ago.
I haven't got a secu-3 yet. For registartion I had to say to have one.
I have a question, what must I download to use the ecu?
Please give me a link because I never did something like that.
Thank you very much.
I was inspired bya that.
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Hello from Ukraine!
Zastava128 wrote:I have a question, what must I download to use the ecu?
You can download PC software and firmware here:
http://secu-3.org/?page_id=3151&lang=en

Do you want to make the SECU yourself or buy from us?
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Hello.
Thank you very much.
I can't build it by myself.
I'd like to learn how to use it before buying.
I'm looking for the car too,at the moment I go on foot.
I'mnot in hurry.
I hope to be able to install the program to see the screenshoot and manage it.
The yellow 128 was an old idea,some days ago I found the ad I took the picture.
I'm interesting in some tuning part too.
A cluster with a tachometer(rev conter) and clear rear lights.
I collected a genuine Veglia Borletti cluster.
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I found something for Lada/Vaz that looks similar,the same style.
gauges clock.jpg
Rear lights from 2101 are bigger tha 128's or not?
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I saw the clear lights.
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Sorry for the studip question, what is the first file that i must download for a virtual mapping on my pc?
Thank you very much.
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Zastava128 wrote:Rear lights from 2101 are bigger tha 128's or not?
I don't know. What size have your rear lights on 128's?
Zastava128 wrote:Sorry for the studip question, what is the first file that i must download for a virtual mapping on my pc?
First of all you should download software for PC:
https://github.com/ashabelnikov/secu3ma ... cu3man.exe

Then you should load any firmware file (see archive) on tab "Firmware data":
https://github.com/ashabelnikov/secu3ap ... inaries.7z

You can view parameters (right side) and maps (left side) in this window.
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Hello.
What about knock sensor? I know that it's possible to fit. What and how?
Fiat Uno and Punto turbo have one from factory. The engines are similar. May I use that?
Does it need calibrating?
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Knock sensor and detonation control are supported by SECU-3.
Install knock sensor on your engine in the same way as it is installed on Fiat Uno and Punto.
After installation knock sensor requires calibration (SECU-3 Manager has a special tab for knock settings).
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Hello.
I think I must find somebody next to me to teach me how...
An expert in computer and files.
The car project is stopped now.
I saw special offers and the new lite ignition, congratulations!
Does it take just CKP sensor,coil pack and wiring loom?
What about that relay? I didn't understand.
secu3l_wiring_ckps-1024x724.png
If you don't use the second CKP sensor you can use the coolant temperature sensor if you want.
I'm not interesting in idle cut off valve, I saw it. Maybe it can be replaced by a bolt or I'm wrong?
I don't know what the throttle limit switch and the gas valve are.
May you show some pictures,please? How do they work?
I have a question from a friend,can secu 3 replace the ignition ecu on Renault 5s?
vžig za renault 5 komplet re450 bendix.jpg
I know that your ecus are universal but I don't know that Renault ignition.
Sometimes I attend this forum to try to learn, if you can add screen shot pictures too when you update threads,please.
Thank you very much.
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Hi,
For proper work of system with SECU-3 Lite you need only SECU-3 Lite unit, one CKP sensor and ignition coil(pack).
All other components are optional (throttle limit switch, Idle cut off valve, starter blocking etc). If you don't use them, you can remap in the SECU-3 Manager free outputs for other functions.
Coolant temperature sensor is not supported in current revision of PCB and next revision will come up soon.

Throttle limit switch is necessary to indicate that throttle is closed. It is used to distinguish between idle and work modes.
Of course, it is not obligatory.

GAS_V is input intended to switch between two different sets of maps. So if you use gas equipment, you can connect this input to gas valve and system will automatically switch between gas and petrol maps. Anyway, you can simple use this input to switch between 2 sets of maps.
I have a question from a friend,can secu 3 replace the ignition ecu on Renault 5s?
Please supply us with more information, let's start with synchronization method. Which sensor is used for determining of crankshaft position?

Thank you too
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Hello.
I don't know that ignition,the picture is taken from an ad. That's the whole ignition system,they said so.
The sensor is shown in that picture,it's on the gerbox bellhousing.
the last missing part is the distributor.
The engine is N/A, the car was for slovenian market,maybe it's little different,I don't know.
I can look for infos regarding 5GTT,maybe it's the same ignition.
I understood what the gas valve is.
auto-plin.jpg
It's the blue part.
Generally that's the switch.
automatski-prekidac-plin-benzin-pokazivacem-nivoa-09007.jpg
I must use the wire from switch to the valve to select the second map in case of bi-fuel or I can add a switch for 2 sets of maps anyway.
I found the ad of a very old gas equipment.
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I'll look for more infos.
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Hello.
I didn't understand that starter blocking relay is an output too.
secu3l_structural_diagram_en.png
In that case there are two outputs for other functions,the second is the idle valve cut off one.
What are other functions?
If we use a distributor the outputs become three.
secu3l_wiring_hall.png
The third ouutput is IGN_OUT2.
A question about distributor as trigger source, can we use hall sensor only?
I asked because the sensor signal is linked to CKPS1,may we use distributor with vr sensor too?
Thank you very much.
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